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Poster: billymays55 Date: Jun 21, 2012 10:05am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Boston Blackie's Chinese Venture (1949) - Question

Was watching this on TCM the other day and caught that the copyright notice reads 1948 but the movie wasn't released until 1949. (see attachment)

It looks like March 3rd 1949 is the registration date, so it looks like they missed the renewal window and renewed it a month late.

Also the registration doesn't note the (in-notice 1948)

Correct me if I'm wrong, please confirm my info.



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Poster: Moongleam Date: Jun 21, 2012 12:42pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Boston Blackie's Chinese Venture (1949) - Question

How many films have you uploaded to the Archive so far?

When do you intend to upload this one to the Archive?

Video-Cellar wrote:


The renewal window was far more complicated before the 1976 copyright
act came into force. For a film to be timely renewed, it had to be
renewed between the 27th and 28th anniversary of the calendar day of
registration based on the year in notice not the year of registration.

For Capt America, some films contain a 1943 and some a 1944 date in
notice. The renewal time limits would be:

Eps 1-3 were reg'd 31 Dec 43 and needed to be renewed between 31 Dec
70 and 31 Dec 71 (1943 Notices)

Eps 4-10 were reg'd 23 Feb 44 and needed ro be renewed between 23 Feb
71 and 23 Feb 72 (1944 Notices)

Eps 11-15 were reg'd 5 Feb 1944 and needed to be renewed between 5 Feb
71 and 5 Feb 72 (1944 notices)

After 1978, the renewal limit became the end of year for the 28th
calendar year after the date in notice.

*****

"DOA" 1950 release, 1949 D-I-N 1978 renewal rejected.

"Father's Little Dividend", "Three Guys Named Mike", "Royal Wedding",
"Vengeance Valley", etc 1951 releases, 1950 notices, 1979 renewals
rejected.

"Last Time I Saw Paris" 1954 release, 1945 D-I-N 1982 renewal rejected.



This post was modified by Moongleam on 2012-06-21 19:42:22

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Poster: billymays55 Date: Jun 21, 2012 2:30pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Boston Blackie's Chinese Venture (1949) - Question

I have not uploaded any films to IA. What does that have to do with the copyright status of the movie? I thought I was supposed to ask on here before anything was uploaded anyways, no? Am I wrong?

I also don't understand why you keep following me around and posting non-constuctive posts and comments about anything I ask. Anyways.....back to the reason we are all here:

The movie was registered in March 3rd 1949

but since the in-notice is 1948 we will be using March 3rd 1948 as the registration date.

So for to be renewed properly it would have to be filed between March 3rd, 1975 through March 3rd, 1976.....but it was not, it was renewed on April 5th 1976 which is over a month late.

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Poster: guyzilla Date: Jun 22, 2012 12:31am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Boston Blackie's Chinese Venture (1949) - Question

From what I understand about copyrights from reading the posts here for the last couple of years, you might be right about the renewal being invalid, but I'm not an expert. One point, though, would be that if you recorded your copy of this film from TCM and you plan to upload it, you should refrain from it since TCM superimposes their logo onto the films they show. This is called a "watermark" and the TCM logo is trademarked. It would be better to source it from a dvd or videotape for uploads here. I hope I was of some help.

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Poster: Moongleam Date: Jun 22, 2012 12:20pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Boston Blackie's Chinese Venture (1949) - Question

Software is readily available to cover up watermarks. The simplest programs allow you to specify a rectangular area that will be obscured throughout the entire video. AviSynth lets you apply the filter only to certain frames; this is what you need for TCM, since the logo only appears for a few seconds every 20 minutes or so.

k-otic has said that he uses AviDemux for watermark removal.

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Poster: billymays55 Date: Jun 22, 2012 3:11pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Boston Blackie's Chinese Venture (1949) - Question

I can upload it but I wasn't planning on using the TCM source. Or if anyone else wants to upload it before me go right ahead. I have noticed alot of movies on IA with Alpha logos on them?

@Moongleam

You didn't answer any of my questions.

?

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Poster: guyzilla Date: Jun 22, 2012 5:03pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Boston Blackie's Chinese Venture (1949) - Question

Good point on the Alpha logo. I've seen quite a few here myself and a lot of them have been here a while. I tend to avoid sourcing from Alpha since I believe that logo is trademarked, but others tend to go ahead and not much is said about it. Most of what I've put up was from Sinister Cinema. Most of what Alpha puts out is sourced from Sinister also. Sinister also uses a watermark but it's just an "SC" in a generic font so you can't really put a trademark to it. I haven't uploaded anything in quite some time because I don't have the time to spend on the computer like I used to, but if I were to upload something with a logo on it, I would blot it out with a program like AviDemux or AviSynth. But I would prefer to avoid sourcing from anything with a prominent watermark as they tend to detract from my viewing pleasure, so I'm no big fan of Alpha.

This post was modified by guyzilla on 2012-06-23 00:03:14

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Poster: Moongleam Date: Jun 23, 2012 12:13am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Boston Blackie's Chinese Venture (1949) - Question

I find that Sinister Cinema's logo is far more objectionable that Alpha's, because it appears in the body of the film, while Alpha's appears only in the credits.

In my book, Sinister Cinema's people are scumbags: they charge you $10 or more for a single public domain film, and then they brazenly demonstrate the complete contempt they have for you and the movie by defacing it.

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Poster: cosmico Date: Jun 23, 2012 3:51pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Boston Blackie's Chinese Venture (1949) - Question

VCI is far worse than either Alpha or Sinister, with regard to "watermarks" or bugs.

VCI's rather pricey (it was $29.95 originally) commercial release of of the CAPTAIN VIDEO serial on DVD has their LARGE logo appearing randomly for often lengthy periods, several times through all of the chapters. After many complaints they toned it down and released a new set. So when I found this out, I contacted them to complain and to exchange mine for another copy without their damned big logo all over the place, but they basically told me to buy a new copy or stuff it! Moral of the story: never buy any DVDs from VCI Entertainment.

Sinister now has a PD book publishing business, Armchair Fiction I believe it's called, but they're now retitling books, just as they have played with the title cards on some movies. Keith Laumer's classic sci-fi comedy romp of a novel, THE GREAT TIME MACHINE HOAX, has been changed to A HOAX IN TIME by Sinister and made to look like a serious sci-fi drama. I'm sure they've done this to other titles as well. This is the same kind of tampering crap Wade Williams has been doing to old movies (like ROCKETSHIP X-M) for decades.

PFFFT! on them all.



This post was modified by cosmico on 2012-06-23 22:51:17

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Poster: guyzilla Date: Jun 23, 2012 10:19pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Boston Blackie's Chinese Venture (1949) - Question

I don't think I'm going to be buying any more of Sinister's product from now on either. It seems that lots of times when I do, especially a film I've been looking for for a long time, after I order from them and it comes in, I find the same film in the store in better quality at a lesser price. And those crappy title cards they tack on to some films, as you mentioned, are a source of annoyance to me as well. And the quality is poor as well, and I don't know if it's the transfer process or if it's just a faded print. An example of this would be my upload of THE BRAIN THAT WOULDN'T DIE (the "extended" version). Someone has since uploaded a much better copy so Ive added that to my collection. I do remember being told that most of the dvds they have out now are not transferred from the film elements themselves but from the video masters that they made from them. I was told this years ago by the guy on the other end of line when I phoned in my order. They were just starting to go from vhs to dvd at the time. So I would say that Sinister's day (and Alpha's too) are drawing to a close. You could do better to just download what's here, picture quality notwithstanding, for free, than pay top dollar and get the same thing at Sinister. Most of what I've uploaded in the past came from there, so out of that, what you get here for free, I had to pay for. Now that I think about it, that stinks.

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Poster: billymays55 Date: Jul 20, 2012 12:48pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Boston Blackie's Chinese Venture (1949) - Question

Same story for "A Close Call For Boston Blackie" (1946), late renewal going by in-notice. I will upload both.

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Poster: billymays55 Date: Jun 23, 2012 6:58pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Boston Blackie's Chinese Venture (1949) - Question

I finally figured it out, Moongleam obviously works at Alpha.

Ever since that crack I made about Alpha and how god awful they are (which I still stand by my statement) you keep following me around with your negative comments and won't answer my questions. I obviously "hurt your feelings".

It makes sense because Alpha sources most of there releases from Sinister Cinema and your trying to give Sinister Cinema a bad name.

For the record I don't like either company, there both complete garbage quality with logos but I thought I'd just call you out on it.

This post was modified by billymays55 on 2012-06-24 01:50:00

This post was modified by billymays55 on 2012-06-24 01:58:39